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		<title>Comment on Final Post by mythusmage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythusmage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am, Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am, Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Post by Rob Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re reading this comment in the warm with thirst satiated and hunger kept at bay. I do hope that this isn&#039;t the last of your blog and that you post more about roleplaying and politics in the future.

Best wishes, Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re reading this comment in the warm with thirst satiated and hunger kept at bay. I do hope that this isn&#8217;t the last of your blog and that you post more about roleplaying and politics in the future.</p>
<p>Best wishes, Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Have to Ask by Lizard</title>
		<link>http://opines.mythusmage.org/?p=1874&#038;cpage=1#comment-10828</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it doesn&#039;t work when Penn Jilette is watching you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it doesn&#8217;t work when Penn Jilette is watching you do it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Prognosis by technorati 12/28 8:46 &#124; Chantler 411</title>
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		<dc:creator>technorati 12/28 8:46 &#124; Chantler 411</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by John Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS free will:
1. &lt;b&gt;Noun&lt;/b&gt;: The power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies

1. &lt;b&gt;Adjective&lt;/b&gt;: Done of your own accord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS free will:<br />
1. <b>Noun</b>: The power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies</p>
<p>1. <b>Adjective</b>: Done of your own accord</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by John Morales</title>
		<link>http://opines.mythusmage.org/?p=1820&#038;cpage=1#comment-10027</link>
		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do not believe in a deterministic universe because it is too chaotic, too dependent on contingency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are confusing upredictability with indeterminism.

(&#039;Round and round we go)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do not believe in a deterministic universe because it is too chaotic, too dependent on contingency.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are confusing upredictability with indeterminism.</p>
<p>(&#8216;Round and round we go)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by mythusmage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythusmage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use words s described in the dictionary, usually the first definition. What I mean by what I say  can be taken from context.

Addressing the meat of your comment; yes, I believe in free will as limited by our capabilities, our past, and current circumstances. I do not believe in a deterministic universe because it is too chaotic, too dependent on contingency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use words s described in the dictionary, usually the first definition. What I mean by what I say  can be taken from context.</p>
<p>Addressing the meat of your comment; yes, I believe in free will as limited by our capabilities, our past, and current circumstances. I do not believe in a deterministic universe because it is too chaotic, too dependent on contingency.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by John Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does free will have to be perfect in order to be valid?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because that question is semantically ambiguous, I ask you to define to what you refer to by &quot;free will&quot; and &quot;validity&quot;.

But, in the spirit of things, yes, I do think we&#039;re meat machines and subject to the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_process&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stochastic&lt;/a&gt; nature of physical reality, with the caveat that there are so many &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of_freedom_%28statistics%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;degrees of freedom&lt;/a&gt; applicable to our choices that even though they are deterministic, they are unpredictable (i.e. for all practical purposes, our choices are &quot;our own&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does free will have to be perfect in order to be valid?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because that question is semantically ambiguous, I ask you to define to what you refer to by &#8220;free will&#8221; and &#8220;validity&#8221;.</p>
<p>But, in the spirit of things, yes, I do think we&#8217;re meat machines and subject to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_process" rel="nofollow">stochastic</a> nature of physical reality, with the caveat that there are so many <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of_freedom_%28statistics%29" rel="nofollow">degrees of freedom</a> applicable to our choices that even though they are deterministic, they are unpredictable (i.e. for all practical purposes, our choices are &#8220;our own&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by mythusmage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythusmage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 03:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does free will have to be perfect in order to be valid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does free will have to be perfect in order to be valid?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whether You Like it or Not by John Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But consider the situation from our point of view. We don’t know what’s going to happen, so we at least have the appearance of choice. And then you have the possibility that omniscience applies only to what has happened, not to what hasn’t happened. That what hasn’t happened, what is yet to be, cannot be known.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure.  But we do have experience and theories, and we can know to a certain extent.

(Drop a wine-glass on a slate floor from shoulder-height, the outcome is rather predictable, no?)

&lt;blockquote&gt;But what really matters is how we are affected. Our choices depend on what we know, and because we can’t be perfect in our knowledge, we can’t know what we will do. It is this essential ignorance that gives us our freedom of action.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not just on what we know, but on our predilections; but yes, I take your point.  We choose so as to increase the likelihood of favoured (or, alternative, to decrease the likelihood of unfavoured) outcomes.

But the freedom of action is unrelated to that ignorance; it refers to which choices you could make, not to which you should make.  A salient (though conceptual) difference.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But frankly, it is my stance that belief in predestination means a degrading of basic human dignity, and a denial of basic human rights. It justifies tyranny and oppression. while free will promotes human dignity and basic human rights.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, then; as I noted above, since you believe an omniscient being exists, you perforce must believe in predestination (inasmuch as what it knows &lt;i&gt;shall&lt;/i&gt; occur, &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; occur; it can go no other way!). :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Free will also means you are responsible for what you do, and not some blind fate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What you do is your doing, and you take responsibility for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But not all that one does is freely-chosen; in my opinion, one can only be held responsible for one&#039;s uncoerced choices, whether that coercion is due to other agencies or to circumstances.

(Beware of over-generalisations!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But consider the situation from our point of view. We don’t know what’s going to happen, so we at least have the appearance of choice. And then you have the possibility that omniscience applies only to what has happened, not to what hasn’t happened. That what hasn’t happened, what is yet to be, cannot be known.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure.  But we do have experience and theories, and we can know to a certain extent.</p>
<p>(Drop a wine-glass on a slate floor from shoulder-height, the outcome is rather predictable, no?)</p>
<blockquote><p>But what really matters is how we are affected. Our choices depend on what we know, and because we can’t be perfect in our knowledge, we can’t know what we will do. It is this essential ignorance that gives us our freedom of action.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not just on what we know, but on our predilections; but yes, I take your point.  We choose so as to increase the likelihood of favoured (or, alternative, to decrease the likelihood of unfavoured) outcomes.</p>
<p>But the freedom of action is unrelated to that ignorance; it refers to which choices you could make, not to which you should make.  A salient (though conceptual) difference.</p>
<blockquote><p>But frankly, it is my stance that belief in predestination means a degrading of basic human dignity, and a denial of basic human rights. It justifies tyranny and oppression. while free will promotes human dignity and basic human rights.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, then; as I noted above, since you believe an omniscient being exists, you perforce must believe in predestination (inasmuch as what it knows <i>shall</i> occur, <i>will</i> occur; it can go no other way!). <img src='http://opines.mythusmage.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Free will also means you are responsible for what you do, and not some blind fate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course.</p>
<blockquote><p>What you do is your doing, and you take responsibility for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>But not all that one does is freely-chosen; in my opinion, one can only be held responsible for one&#8217;s uncoerced choices, whether that coercion is due to other agencies or to circumstances.</p>
<p>(Beware of over-generalisations!)</p>
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